I moved into a home with an old Gemini napco panel and Ibridge touch screen, it has 16 hardwired zones and what seems to be motion sensors on the aux along with a siren.
I just purchased a power g takeover , a iq4 panel and an 8 zone extender board
im reading over the instructions but cant seem to find the order of install
Should I set up the panel first and update the firmware before I even start to move the wiring in the box to the power g? Or should I set up the power g first to make sure the iq4 picks up the zones in the first try? I’ve uploaded some photos of my current board if anyone has any suggestions
The order of physical install doesn’t matter that much, the panel will need to be programmed to listen to the Hardwire translator after the translator has been wired up.
However, I would generally power up the panel first, familiarize yourself with the system, and update firmware. Then install and program the sensors (including the hardwire translator).
Great thanks for the reply…. by looking at my photos I should have enough equipment by buying the panel, the powerg board, the extender board and a new battery correct? I just want to make sure I don’t I need any more parts to make this happen? Thanks
The panel, PowerG takeover module, 8-zone expander, and battery should be all you need. Depending on the outlet space where your current panel is at, you may need a power strip. Instead of one transformer, you will need to plug in two. One for the IQ Panel 4 and one for the PowerG Takeover Module.
Looking at the pictures, it actually looks like the panel can handle 16 zones with double zoning but I only see 8 resistors being used. Unless they all share the same common wire, it looks like you may only have 8 zones.
Thanks for the advice the current touchscreen panel near the door shows 16 zones so I guess they’re using double zones. Do I still need the extender panel or any different instruction now thanks again for your quick help.
I’m not too certain if he had any wireless devices this was how it was when I moved in there’s two Gemini old-school panels in the bedrooms and there’s an eye bridge touchscreen at the front door that shows 16 different zones
I guess I’m going to have to put eight on the powerg and 8 on the extender?
If you only have 8 zones at the panel, I would check behind the keypads to see if there are any zones tied in to them. I have seen some keypads with pigtails to be able to add additional zones with them. Some Napco keypads have the option to add 4 zones. I would check behind both keypads.
You can use the existing wiring to run some of the sensors back to the panel if you will not be mounting the keypad there. The existing wire for the keypads will have 4 conductors which depending on the distance, you can use to get 2-3 zones to the main panel. You can also use the PG9309 which is a small sensor in which you can hardwire 2 sensors.
Yes, the main panel shows 16 separate labeled locations when I look at the zones I won’t be able to pull the other keypads off until tomorrow to check for zone terminations behind them, but maybe it’s possible they just did double zoning on the 8 slots and plugging them all back into the power g and extender Will work?
Are you able to pull out the wires from inside the wall? How many white wires are connected to the keypad? 1, 3, or 5? With that amount of wires behind the keypad, you may have zones behind the keypads.
I didn’t try to pull out the wires, I didn’t want to break anything I just figured since there was this many wires behind the pad I assume there’s zones which is likely going to make this a lot harder to turn all 16 to wireless
Will you just be using one keypad? You can use the 4 conductor to run back 2 zones from the keypad location to the panel. I would recommend adding PG9309 sensors as you can add two hardwired sensors into each and you can place them behind the wall.
I mean I would buy two new keypads if that was easier if we’re sure there’s zones attached to these, and it would be plug and play but if I had to buy Two 9309s and put holes in bedroom and garage walls near the additional keypads that’s probably too much for me lol
Is there anyway to verify with 100% certainty that these keypads are using zones by just doing a walk test triggering zones?
With the Qolsys systems, there aren’t any keypads compatible to add zones to the system. Adding PG9309 sensors wouldn’t require new holes. It would be wiring the zones that go into the keypad to the sensors and just having it behind the keypad using the existing hole.
The only way would be removing the keypad and looking at the wiring. It most likely is 4 zones behind each keypad.
