I’m trying to work out the best way to control a Watercop water shutoff solenoid using Qolsys. I see the new PGP-IO9 IO module coming that has output. The Watercop water shutoff can have an aux momentary signal to shut the valve. I’d like to see if I would be able to use the PGP-IO9 to trigger the aux input to close the valve. What I can’t determine from the documentation is whether there is any control on the output behavior to make it a momentary switch signal. Do you guys know how that PGP-IO9 output can behave when connected to an IQ4? Can it be configured to send a momentary for a specific duration?
My objective is a totally solid local system for water control AND have it connected to the IQ4.
The PGP-IO9 looks like it does not provide voltage on the outputs. It looks like it sinks external voltage and is probably not using any relays. I may need to wire it up to a relay control that does the momentary switching.
I’m open to any thoughts around an IQ4 controlling something with an output. Water tiles alert and output signals the valve to close. Looking for Powerg(+) method.
It looks like the PGP IO9 will have the option to be either 4 inputs or 2 inputs and 2 PGM outputs. The PGM programming on the PGP IO9 will be the same as the programming on the IQ Hardwire PowerG for PGM outputs.
Programming a PGM can be found on the panel by swiping down on the mains screen > Settings > Advanced Settings > Installer Code > Installation > Devices > Security Sensors > PGM Output Rules > Select PGM and create a rule
They can be programmed as Normal or Inverted, Latching or Timer(Seconds or Minutes), and Trigger type. Settings it up as a Command Output will give you the option to control it on the alarm panel locally.
Yes, if you select command you can control it with the panel locally or you can set up flood sensors and have it trigger if any flood sensors detect water.
As long as there is no power required to trigger the water valve and it is just looking for either normally closed or normally open circuit.
Yes it can be set to trigger when a certain zone is triggered or you can also set it to trigger if there is a flood detection alarm on a water tile sensor.
The water valve will require power to turn on but usually the inputs do not require power.
Yes you can configure local rules like arming to either stay or away or a zone activating or a certain kind of alarm activating with latching or on a timer. If it is for a water valve, my guess it you would need latching
In this case, no. I need two outputs that provide a momentary closure only. The valve controller wants a momentary contact to signal closure. A separate momentary contact to open. The valve controller takes care of latching the valve. Think of this like pushing a momentary button on a controller panel to close and then another to open.
This io device would be ideal for me because I need the two outputs to control close and open and the two inputs to show indication of closed or open.
Can you rephrase or explain that for me? I don’t understand an input without voltage.
Gotcha, yes you can use the timer setting and set it to timer then and select how many seconds you would like to activate it for.
What model Watercop are you installing? I looked up the Watercop and the Pro and Classic require a Momentary Dry Contact Closure for both opening and closing which means you wouldn’t need a power supply in the relay.
Closing 5v to the input on the water cop controller to open or close is voltage. That voltage would run through the pgpio9.
Do the pgpio9 outputs work like dry contact relays? Both outputs look tied to ground. They aren’t pairs. There are 4 terminals and a ground on the device. In the manual it depicts the ground also tied to a ground plane. If we have two inputs and two outputs they all share a ground. In this way I probably need to use relays and power to get dry contact relays for the output switching. I may be able to use the water cop controller for 5v to power the relays and if 3 is ground tie that to pgpio9 ground.
Seems like I’m slowly arriving at the realization using a PG9WLSHW8 is probably the likely solution. I already have a PG9HRDW8 and understand I can have two of these types of devices with an iq4. They will be on opposite ends of the house.
I was hoping for something really small like the PGP-IO9, but this is manageable in the utility space. It will also give me some additional options for the integration.
