I installed a Linear WS15Z Switch for the Load Bearing Switch and it works perfectly as a standard switch and as a zwave switch. I also am using a WT00Z Linear 3-Way switch where the old standard 3 way switch was located at. For the 3 Way Switch I believe I have it installed correctly as it is very simple – Just Ground, Hot, & Neutral- The Tracer wire has been capped off. The switch also is lit at the bottom just like the other Linear switches I have which leads me to believe it is installed correctly.
I also have an Aeon Labs MiniMote – The Minimote, WS15Z & WT00Z are all recognized by the 2Gig control panel and I can see that they are all there.
When trying to associate the WT00Z with the WS15Z I am not able to associate them… The minimote does not seem to be doing the trick – I follow the Nortek Bulletin to the letter and the lets never blink faster when double tapping the 15Z & when I have completed the steps exactly as outlined I still am unable to use the 00Z to control the 15Z.
Just to rule things out I removed both of the switches (hard wired & through the 2Gig Panel) and replaced them with the exact same switches just from a different box just to rule out the possibility of a bad switch – Still Doesn’t Work.
This leads me to believe that the MiniMote seems to be the problem as it is not associating the switches.
Is there anything else I can try or any other way to associate the 00Z to the 15Z? What would you do next? I tried to do an uninstall of the MiniMote and do a fresh reinstall but I cannot seem to remove it… I’m thinking my only option at this point is to get a new MiniMote and go that route…
Any thoughts would be appreciated— I am presently in the process of switching our whole home to Z-Wave control and it has been going very well but now I am at the stage where I need to address my 3 & 4 Way switches and get them taken care of.
The first thing that pops to mind is that the associate function requires you to associate the Switch to the Transmitter, specifically, so the order would be:
Learn in devices to main controller.
Learn in minimote to main controller.
Press Associate.
Press the Load-bearing switch learn function.
Press the Transmitter learn function.
Have you been pressing the transmitter first by chance?
That’s the way I have been doing it. The minimote does not go from blinking slow to fast it anything like that. I really think the minimote seems to be the problem. … I updated is firmware tried again with no luck. …
Also just to see I pressed buttons 1 and 2 on the minimote at the same time and from what I read that should turn on all my zwave devices. … it did nothing
Thanks for the quick replies! I made a brief video this morning to show what isn’t happening. I also attached a couple screenshot of the three items in my 2gig panel as well as a pic of the minimote. I have also tried resetting the minimote with the same results Minimote Threeway Association
One: I do not see specific documentation showing it for this switch, but some require you to double tap the bottom half (the off portion) of the rocker for the learn function, can you try that?
And two: Double tap the switch more quickly. Commonly for certain Z-wave switches/appliance modules, you almost need to beat the internal relay (Evolve Appliance modules spring to mind) with the second tap.
I’ll try that when I go for lunch thanks! If it works I’ll make a video and share it for all! There seems to be far too much confusion with the minimote and not much documentation is available.
Now I’ve got two CT100 thermostats acting up! Ugh this was suppose to make the home life easier haha
Ignore the second switch for the moment. Your minimote indicator should flash once it has received signal from the switch first. Let’s verify whether or not the minimote is catching the signal from the switch.
First, run a network rediscovery at the panel. Wait until the rediscovery is done.
Then, press associate.
Verify the blue indicator slowly blinks.
Then double tap the switch. Wait by the switch with the minimote. The blue indicator should flicker when it catches the signal and flash twice as fast when ready for the transmitter. If the indicator does not respond within 3-5 seconds, try double tapping the top of the rocker switch. However you learned the switch into your 2GIG panel is what you will want to do here. If the minimote indicator does not respond, it is not seeing the switch for some reason.
I’ll give it a try but the only way I learned the switches to the panel wad by hitting add device on the panel. I didn’t have to do anything with the switches themselves
I’ll give it a try but the only way I learned the switches to the panel wad by hitting add device on the panel. I didn’t have to do anything with the switches themselves
A Zwave device cannot be included in a network without requesting inclusion, then it is locked to that network until removed. I see you posted images showing node ids in the 2GIG panel, but you would have had to perform a learn procedure on the switches.
When you select “Add Device” at the 2GIG Panel, your panel will listen for a new device to be added. See from the WS15Z instructions attached below for network inclusion.
Those devices will all three need to be part of the same network in order for the associate to function.
Just for a clean slate it may not be bad to start fresh.
Go to your Zwave menu on your 2GIG panel.
Go to the installer options.
Press “Remove Device”
Double tap switch. Your panel should show that a device was removed
Press “Remove Device” again.
Double tap transmitter. Your panel should show that a device was removed
Press “Remove Device” again.
Press the learn procedure of the minimote. Your panel should show that a device was removed
Then, press “add device”
double tap the switch. Your panel should show that a device was added
Then “Add device”
double tap the transmitter. Your panel should show that a device was added
Then “Add device”
perform the learn procedure on the minimote. Your panel should show that a device was added
Then, run a network rediscovery.
Finally, once the rediscovery is done, try associating the two. Verify the minimote indicator flashes faster after the first switch.
I wish it was that simple to remove the devices… but in my case I cannot simply click and remove the device it just sits there until the device is disconnected from power then I can remove it… so I’ll need to pull the swiches from the wall… remove them from the panel and then try it all over again…
But there doesn’t seem to be a way to remove the minimote at all… I will try moving the minimote 300+ feet away from the house then maybe I can do it. But I am unable to simply click on a device and remove it from the panel. Thand for all the help so far!
Awesome! Thanks! I’m really a newbie at all of this. I did do the panels nice though lol. Used a recessed outlet behind the panel and then mpunted the panel to thewall covering the recessed outlet so no ugly transformer sticking out down below
Network Wide Inclusion is something I would steer clear of generally speaking unless you are confident that all of your repeating devices closer to the panel support it. What NWI does is allow you to include close devices, then when they are added, you can work your way out, without moving the panel closer to the more distant nodes.
A description:
"NWI is the process in which you can include devices into the primary controller that are outside the controllers
range. Before NWI, all devices had to be included within close proximity to the primary controller and then the
routing table reconfigured after installing. NWI allows the installer to start at the controller and include the devices
that are within its range. Once those have been included in the network, then the installer can include the next level
of devices that are not within direct range of the primary controller. "
In general, I would recommend the standard inclusion and bring the controller within a few feet of each device to do it.
Thank you! It worked perfectly! But now of course a few more issues have arrived lol. I lost a couple of switches when I did it… so I went to remove them and they wI’ll not remove… do a network rediscovery still not there… try and add them… No luck… but they still work with the all on all off commands from the minimote… strange!
Where are the switches no longer showing up? On your 2GIG panel control screen? It sounds like you added the lights to the minimote originally, using the minimote as the controller. When the minimote was removed from the 2GIG panel, the lights would likely be dropped from the panel.
Zwave devices still need to be “Removed” regardless because they link to a network and retain that in memory. Use the “Remove” function on the minimote or panel. Try bringing the controller closer to those switches.
This minimote needs clearer installation instructions. I added it to a 2gig gc2 and tried to get it to work with two light switches. successful with one but not the other. thought I’d start over. Went to remove the device and it said this device has been removed from another network. which I thought was my network. So I added it again and tried to get it to work with an evolve switch. Didnt work. Thought I would just return it. Went to remove it from the network again. and again it said this device has been removed from another network. went into device list, and now there are two minimotes listed as controllers.
how do I remove them?
and… can I just make this minimote control light switches? on, off, dim. button 1 for one set of outdoor lights, button 2 for another outdoor light. and maybe button 3 for a scene. thanks. this has been a frustrating device so far.
Are you using Aeon Labs manual online? They have a good step by step for using it as a scene fob.
Ultimately, once learning it into a network, these steps should let you set up four distinct scenes using the top four buttons:
"Creating Scenes (and Removing Z-Wave Devices from Scenes)
1 Press and hold the scene button you wish to configure (top of enclosure) – The blue LED will blink quickly after 1 second to show that it is ready to add/remove a device from the scene.
1 Press the Z-Wave button on the product you wish add/remove (while still holding the scene button from the previous step) – The blue LED on the Minimote will stay solid to indicate the device has entered the scene.*
1 While still holding the scene button from Step-1, adjust the level of the Lamp/Shade/product to the desired level.
1 Release the scene button to complete adding the device to the scene at the device’s current level.
Note
If the product is already a part of that particular scene, it will be removed from that scene the second time steps #1-4 are repeated for that particular product in that scene.
Note
Scenes can only be created with Switch_MultiLevel and Switch_Binary Z-Wave types.
Note
Z-Wave devices must be first added/included into the same network as the Minimote in order to create a scene with that device."
