I want to add a door contact, and a motion in a detached garage. I have conduit from garage to house. If I were to hard wire a contact, the total length of wire would be about 130 feet. I was thinking of a take over module. Are there other options? What would you recommend?
If I use the take over module what motion do you recommend? What gauge of wire for that length?
Any appropriate wired motion detector rated for outdoor use would be fine. Outdoor versions would better handle the environment of a detached garage.
However, something like this may be ideal as it is battery operated and would allow you to just run 22/2 back and use a DW10 as a transmitter with its loop 1 wired input. A TAKE-345 may not be as cost efficient if you are only installing one or two zones.
If I used the takeover and a hardwired motion, is the cost much different? The VX-402R is pricey. What gauge wire for the door contact?
The door contact would require no power, standard 22/2 would be fine.
The length is not going to heavily impact motion detectors since most have a low current draw. 22/4 should be fine over 130 feet, most outdoor motion detector documentation will give suggested distance limits.
Whichever route you’d like to go would work.
If you use a TAKE, the following would be required:
TAKE-345
12V power supply board with battery charging circuit. (like an HPL624, or an existing old alarm panel board from a previous wired system)
12V backup battery.
Plug in AC power transformer for HPL624.
130+ feet 22/4 cable and 130+ feet 22/2 (or just one length of 22/6 if available)
Outdoor wired motion detector
Wired door contact
Excellent, thanks for the quick response
Not a problem. Most of the components aren’t too expensive, but there are quite a few.
Another option would be to try an RE524X repeater and a wireless Honeywell 5800PIROD and a 5816OD. However depending on construction this is not guaranteed to wirelessly bridge that distance.
All routes will be of a roughly similar cost, unless you can bring the sensor wires directly to the panel. Both the GC3 and GC2 Panel have two hardwired zone inputs on the terminal block.
I can get both of the wires to the gc3 panel. I was understanding that the hardwired inputs were only for contacts and not motion. Am I incorrect?
You can program hardwired zones 1 and 2 for pretty much all of the same zone types as wireless sensors other than life safety devices.
You could use Wired Zones 1 and 2 on the panel as the motion detector and door contact, no TAKE required.
excellent
thank you
So I ended up just getting a dw10 and hard wiring a contact to it. Can you confirm what settings I should program it as please.
thanks
That would depend on the type of sensor you wired to it. You would use the appropriate zone type for that device, and program the wireless loop as 1.
So if it is a door:
Zone type: Perimeter or Entry Exit
Equipment type: (0862)
Learn serial number.
Age new.
Loop: 1
Dialer delay: disabled.
add descriptor.
reports and supervision enabled.
That is how I had it, but it was not working. Does it matter if I have NO or NC contact? I had it on a NC contact.
Ended up hard wiring to panel and I am GTG now.
It would need to be a NC contact.
It would not function on any other loop. If learning in the sensor by opening/closing the reed switch with a magnet, it would default to loop 2 and would need to be manually changed.
However, if you opted to wire it into a hardwire zone on the panel that is fine too.