Honeywell 5800COMBO Programming Qolsys IQ 4 Panel

Programming a Qolsys IQ 4 Panel. Have 2 5800COMBO detectors.

The device only reports an Smoke alarm to the panel when programmed to Loop 1 and a CO alarm when programmed to Loop 3 (using the correct addresses of course). In both cases, when doing a test of the device, once the alarm activates, I disarm the system to clear the alarm, but the sensor remains in the active list of devices in alarm. Kind of looks like it is latching but I don’t see an additional way to “reset” the device.

What’s the proper programming configuration for this device to the panel?

I had read (still trying to find where again-I had written it into my notes) that the smoke must be on Loop 2 and the CO must be on Loop 1, but neither report alarms on those settings.

5800Combo is not compatible with the IQ Panel 4 345MHz panel. There is no alternative combination fire/carbon that is compatible either.

A list of tested compatible sensors can be found below. For the 345MHz version of the IQ Panel 4, only the 345 and PowerG sections are relevant.

That’s an old sheet though. The current IQ 4 Panel Installer’s manual says it is:

To be fair, the current version (4/1/2022) of that PDF doc also doesn’t list it either.

The sheet referenced previously is the most recent information for both IQ Panel 2 and 4, they have not released anything newer.

I spoke with Qolsys representatives today and was told its specifically not compatible. I have reached out to get conformation and I will follow up as soon as I hear back.

Any update on this? I am about to buy some smoke detectors and it would be nice to have CO built in there as well. Is there anything compatible with the IQ4 that does both?
Thanks!

There are no officially supported compatible Smoke/CO combo units that I am aware of.

With a 345Mhz panel though you do have access to the FF-345, which can monitor both Smoke and CO temporal patterns.

This would work for any interconnected UL listed detectors.

Any update here? I mistakenly thought the 5800 COMBO’s were supported by the Qolsys IQ 4 Panel.

I have 6 COMBOs and am currently trying to figure out next steps:

  • Switch over to a 2 GIG Edge (it seems they support the 5800 COMBOs). Any other downsides I should consider?
  • Wait it out if Qolsys has announced any upcoming support.
  • Try and sell the 5800 COMBOs. Does Qolsys support any combo units yet? Replacing these 6 units for 12 units would be a pain.

Further testing shows:

The serial used for the CO detection works. When you do a test alarm, it triggers to the panel, you can disarm/silence the alarm, etc. But it does not seem to send the alarm to the other 5800combos for them to all alert together.

The serial used for the smoke detection does not work. When you do a test alarm, nothing happens.

Please let me know if there is anything I can do here. Thanks!

There is no change in the support. Qolsys reps confirmed that there are no plans to add support for that model at this time, at least that the support reps were aware of. According to Honeywell’s website the model has been discontinued.

But it does not seem to send the alarm to the other 5800combos for them to all alert together.

That wouldn’t happen. 5800 series sensors are one way broadcast communication 345Mhz sensors. The panel does not send commands to them. They are not linked in that way.

PowerG smoke detectors have one go all go capability because PowerG is a two way communication method.

I am not aware of any combo units compatible at this time.

Yeah, looks they discontinued the Honeywell/Ademco 5800combo, but really because they just came out with a v2, the Honeywell Resideo Resideo 5800CMBOV - Wireless Smoke, Heat, and CO Detector - Alarm Grid

Since Qolsys has no plans to support the combo unit, and there are no other combo units that are compatible, thoughts on my 1st option?

  • Switch over to a 2 GIG Edge (it seems they support the 5800 COMBOs). Any other downsides I should consider?

Switch over to a 2 GIG Edge (it seems they support the 5800 COMBOs). Any other downsides I should consider?

Ah, yes these are compatible with 2GIG panels. If you have any secondary keypads or PowerG sensors those would not be compatible.

If you have a 345Mhz Qolsys panel and you have only 345Mhz sensors, those would be compatible with 2GIG Panels and you would not lose devices/need to replace them.

Some features are Qolsys only at this time. For example, control of Aladdin connect or MyQ garage from the panel screen is only available on Qolsys panels.

There is no backup restore possible between Qolsys and 2GIG Panels, so all sensors would need to be manually programmed into the 2GIG Panel.

You can swap your panel associated with your account at any time in the system manager here by expanding the Swap Cellular Module/Panel section and following the steps. You’ll need the IMEI of your new panel to complete the swap.

Does the 2GIG Edge have any longer-range sensors? I may have a couple of door sensors I want to change over to a longer range variant if they exist.

Do any repeaters work for safety devices with the 2GIG Edge?

Does the 2GIG Edge have any longer-range sensors? I may have a couple of door sensors I want to change over to a longer range variant if they exist.

Currently, 2GIG Edge is compatible with 345MHz and eSeries 345MHz, both are the same range, give or take. However, it was just announced that 2GIG is releasing eSeries Plus sensors which look to offer increased range. Unfortunately, I do not have a ton of information on these yet but more information can be found here:

Do any repeaters work for safety devices with the 2GIG Edge?

No they do not.